RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3: The Peacekeepers [Update 19] [N_taii]

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Oriandu

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The idea of partial POV is an interesting one, but in HC3 it sounds like the implementation is flawed. If a similar mechanic is to be used in HC4 then I think it needs to be taken one step further and for it to be pure MC POV only. Three things need to happen.

  1. First, the hint board/orbs shouldn't be included, they're intended for the people who are going to see the free roams which should not be the case for MC's POV.
  2. Second, the free roams need to be shadowed out, no more seeing a zoomed in shot through a window, or seeing the characters fucking behind a building the MC can't actually see behind, no talking to people with a heart over their head to see scenes. The best you get get is muffled moaning and groaning because realistically that's all your character should be hearing.
  3. Finally, no scenes that are not important to the narrative should be shown if the MC isn't present. Using the update where Rose and the Duke first have sex as the example, we should have no idea what happened. We should know ahead of time that the Duke and Rose are doing something with the amulets to power up the peacekeeper towers and that's all, with the moaning and groaning free roam scenes and Rose's guilty behaviour in our presence as the only clues. We should be able to infer what happened but we should not be told explicitly.

I know that'll require N_Taii to build multiple versions of a lot of the scenes and therefore slow development down, but it'd be a better quality product and it would make the MC POV worth experiencing. It would give us a reason to play the game twice because playing the game only seeing what the MC sees first would give players more of a mystery to figure out and that would encourage a second play through to see if we're right about what exactly is going on.
 
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Oriandu said:
the Duke and Rose are doing something with the amulets to power up the peacekeeper towers and that's all, with the moaning and groaning free roam scenes and Rose's guilty behaviour
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*Sigh* why stop there? We then dont know about amulets either, we would know nothing about anything, if we talking about ONLY MC POV. In that scenario the game would turn into the fucking mess and we HAVE to play game twice because we would lose 90% of the narrative and what actually happening in the world, because we only focusin on the MC and his surrounding. It is even worse at that point, because with your logic if we hear moaning and groaning, it can be heard by MC too, so if he is not an complete idiot, he would understand.
Thats why all nitpicking and be "as real as possible" wont work in the games, movies and other fictional stuff, there must be assumptions one way or another, especially in NTR stuff.
 
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XpoHu4 said:
*Sigh* why stop there? We then dont know about amulets either, we would know nothing about anything, if we talking about ONLY MC POV. In that scenario the game would turn into the fucking mess and we HAVE to play game twice because we would lose 90% of the narrative and what actually happening in the world, because we only focusin on the MC and his surrounding. It is even worse at that point, because with your logic if we hear moaning and groaning, it can be heard by MC too, so if he is not an complete idiot, he would understand.
Thats why all nitpicking and be "as real as possible" wont work in the games, movies and other fictional stuff, there must be assumptions one way or another, especially in NTR stuff.
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Did you just purposefully ignore the sentence that started that paragraph or did you skim my post and just mash the comment button without thinking that maybe you should read the whole thing? I specifically stated that we shouldn't see scenes that are not important to the narrative... which means we would still be seeing all of the scenes that are important to the narrative, we just wouldn't be seeing the sex scenes. At this point in the game exactly zero sex scenes have been so important that we had no choice but to see them.

We "stop there" because what you're suggesting is not what is actually being suggested because I'm not an idiot. Swear to God, the worst thing F95 ever did for comments is remove the face palm reaction.
 
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Matoga said:
I almost feel bad for saying this cause i'm usually pretty vocal about how interactive Freeroam events are infinitely better than simple Freeroam events that you can just...see, but i think that lately N_Taii has been going a bit overboard with them, and i don't mean quantity cause there's no such thing as too many freeroam events, i mean quality.

I first thought about this right after reading the post where N_Taii explained why the Updates have been taking longer lately and obviously the main reason in that post was that the quality of freeroam events have drastically increased over the years, to the point where they're more like smaller scenes rather than actual Freeroam events...and i think that is precisely what happened, for example the only difference between the actual scenes for Lily and the 2 freeroam events that were added in Update14, is that the location from where you can watch these scenes are different.

Now i obviously can't speak for everyone so i'm not saying that this is objectively bad, but for me freeroam events should not have to be triggered in order for us to see it and they most definitely should not end after we're done interacting with them...most of the time, i love the freeroam event where Haylen is having sex with Jazon in his room on a random morning and i wouldn't change anything about it, but it's a great example for what i'm saying, you can't see anything before OR after you interact with Haylen, only while the cutscene is happening, and as i said, i wouldn't change anything about this scene but the fact that more and more freeroam events are like this is something that i have a bone to pick with.
I'm at a point where i keep thinking about that one Freeroam event where Cyanna and Ulrod are having sex down at the docks in front of the warehouse and i'm almost like "i wish we had more freeroam events like this".

I'll give a better example of what i mean and how i would've preferred it instead: there is a new freeroam event for Lily where she's standing in front of the greenhouse just below Nezar's shop with those Heart icons above her head that indicates that there is something happening here, once you talk to Lily the scene starts, Nezar appears, Leto leaves, Lily and Nezar starts having sex, scene over, pretty straightforward, it's a good freeroam event don't get me wrong, but again, there is nothing happening BEFORE and AFTER you talk with Lily.
How I would've liked this scene more you ask ? Easy, the EXACT same thing but instead of Lily standing in front of the greenhouse, she's already having sex with Nezar inside, and you can only interact with those Heart icons on the ground, and once you do, the screen goes black and it says "15 MINUTES EARLIER", and THEN the exact same cutscene starts playing as the one we already have.
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As i said at the beginning, i've been thinking about this ever since that post was made on Patreon right after Update14's first release, but i didn't want to write it down cause i knew that it would be a really long post and i was just too lazy to bother (and as i'm looking at it right now, it seems i was spot on unfortunately), however this week's PoL was released 2 days ago, and N_Taii ended the post by saying this:
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This was what actually made me want to write this monstrosity down, i don't know exacly what i'm expecting from all of this, but maybe this will somehow snowball into a discussion or whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (hopefully more than 2 people will bother reading it lmao)
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Very good point. Its fine to have both, but from my side I also like just walking around and seeing lewd stuff happening, rather than having to press a button to see a scene. It should either be number 1 (because we dont have infinite dev time), or both, but having only 2 seems like a needlessly less good.
 
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I saw this game (earlier versions) when i first entere this site and still didn't know the meaning of all the tags, now i know.
Seeing this game at the time i played for a bit and i must say, the plot made me feel so much disconfort i felt physically bad for a while.

That being said, anyone here ever felt that because of a ntr story?

I'm used to mc's taking multiple women, and sometimes swinging etc, even some stories that have ntr (usually avoiable) didn't impress me so much, but in this story even when the mc shouldn't care much sometimes... it felt wrong...
 
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GolCK said:
hm... at the end of my save (update 13) it goes into main menu
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Flojerazul20 said:
full saved pliss
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Full save available in the game files.

Titivillus said:
I saw this game (earlier versions) when i first entere this site and still didn't know the meaning of all the tags, now i know.
Seeing this game at the time i played for a bit and i must say, the plot made me feel so much disconfort i felt physically bad for a while.

That being said, anyone here ever felt that because of a ntr story?

I'm used to mc's taking multiple women, and sometimes swinging etc, even some stories that have ntr (usually avoiable) didn't impress me so much, but in this story even when the mc shouldn't care much sometimes... it felt wrong...
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It happens to a lot of people. I know it did for me, many years ago, until I learned not to identify with the MC and strictly think of it as a fictional story. It takes time though.
 
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N_taii said:
Full save available in the game files.


It happens to a lot of people. I know it did for me, many years ago, until I learned not to identify with the MC and strictly think of it as a fictional story. It takes time though.
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oh thank you, i was blind sorry
 
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JagOvv SmearOvv

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I'm so stupid. It took me until now to discover almost all the Magic Shop items are interactable. I tried touching the dark blue stones at the bottom left of the shop and idling to see if anything happened, like Leto becoming possessed or comatose. :LOL:
 
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Yea, I just cant get into this magic man story line. Nor did all the dream world stuff do anything for me. But holy was that scene with Tavros and Lily begging hot. Too bad he didn't just pipe her down right there. Tavros and his Rose scene was also really hot, I hope we see more of Tavros being pos not in a dream but for realsies, lol :)

The animations of the sprite just seem to be getting better and better though, solid update.
 
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I downloaded ver 14, but I have saves from ver 13. Game (ver 14 on save 13) just ends after cutscene, Am I missing something or I have to start from the beginnig?
[EDIT] Oh I get it, there is a pdf with an explanation
 
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LordFrz said:
Yea, I just cant get into this magic man story line. Nor did all the dream world stuff do anything for me. But holy was that scene with Tavros and Lily begging hot. Too bad he didn't just pipe her down right there. Tavros and his Rose scene was also really hot, I hope we see more of Tavros being pos not in a dream but for realsies, lol :)

The animations of the sprite just seem to be getting better and better though, solid update.
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I actually started to like this update once it started feeling like the tragedy of a junkie. It has a little bit of that Intervention drama. Maybe I'll give Lily's entire storyline another chance.

And yeah, Tavros' scenes with Lily and Rose were hot! The one with Rose should have been reworked so Leto could see or hear most of what's going on, but I like the tension it had. I would love for Tavros to be a sleazy scumbag and mess around with Lily and Rose more. :love:

EDIT: One of the guys who shows up later even sorta reminds me of the old guy organizing the Interventions
 
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